Council silent on gallery debate

Anthony Radford | Bendigo Weekly | 29-Oct-2012 First for news

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Greater Bendigo officials have refused to enter into a public debate with newly elected councillor Elise Chapman over her view on slashing art gallery funding.

Cr Chapman caused an online sensation yesterday when she told the Bendigo Weekly she wanted to cut the gallery's budget.

“We spend millions of dollars trying to attract people to the art gallery and Capital Theatre and year after year they are making millions of dollars of losses, both of them,” she said.

“I don’t know how it continuously makes the losses it does.

“I think the budget needs to be slashed.

“The majority of people are not happy and believe the art gallery is for the chosen few who can afford it.”

The story created a storm on the Weekly's website and on Twitter and Facebook.

Council and gallery staff refused to comment today, and long-time councillor and gallery patron Rod Fyffe said the issue would be resolved in-house.

"I am very happy for council officers to present figures to all councillors so everyone knows exactly what is what," he said.

"It is best everyone gets up-to-date information so we all understand the cost and the contribution of the gallery."

Last financial year the gallery made a loss of $300,000.

EARLIER

A new Greater Bendigo councillor has called for the art gallery’s budget to be slashed.

Lockwood Ward provisionally-elected councillor Elise Chapman said Bendigo Art Gallery, which attracted record numbers in the last financial year, is for a "chosen few".

“We spend millions of dollars trying to attract people to the art gallery and Capital Theatre and year after year they are making millions of dollars of losses, both of them,” she said.

“I don’t know how it continuously makes the losses it does.

“I think the budget needs to be slashed.

“The majority of people are not happy and believe the art gallery is for the chosen few who can afford it.”

Ms Chapman said she was keen to shake things up.

“A lot of people need a rocket up their bums and if that has to be me (that does it), so be it,” she said.

Ms Chapman said she would push for tighter fiscal control at council.

“I am not going to vote for any rates rise next year. My plan is to honour all of my election pledges,” she said.

“Everything seems to take so long and run over budget.

“There does need to be restrictions of how council’s money is spent.”

Ms Chapman said she supported an independent review of council, and criticised the idea of having a playground in Hargreaves Mall.

“We are throwing good money after bad and we are flogging a dead horse,” she said.

“There is no point trying to put a band aid on an arterial wound.”

Ms Chapman thanked the community for their support.

“I am shocked, thrilled, excited and anxious,” she said.

“I am so honoured the community has given me a chance to represent them, now it’s up to me to prove myself.”

Kiel Sigley commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:03 PM5 out of 5 stars
About time someone stood up against the gallery. There are so many other better tourist attractions in and around Bendigo where the money could be better spent. Good on you Ms Chapman, make them stop wasting money on a dead horse, that not even the tourists want to go to.
howie commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:07 PM5 out of 5 stars
Does she understand how much revenue to the city the Gallery brings in? And does she also realise that entry to the Gallery is by donation and that they run many free events as well? I'm glad I didn't vote for her!
Strad commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:16 PM5 out of 5 stars
Well done Bendigo, out of the frying pan, into the fire! Just when you didn't think councillors could get worse!
Reader commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:20 PM5 out of 5 stars
THE INJECTION OF FUNDS INTO THE WIDER COMMUNITY FROM EVENTS HELD AT THE ART GALLERY HAS BEEN ENORMOUS........OBVIOUSLY ELISE THINKS IT`S JUST FOR A FEW PEOPLE TO GO AND SEE SOME PAINTINGS.........AGE OF COUTURE....WHITE WEDDING DRESS..... GRACE KELLY....JUST TO NAME 3 HAVE CREATED A HUGE SHOT IN THE ARM FOR MANY LOCAL BUSINESSES AND IN TURN EMPLOYEES , SUPPLIERS , ETC.,.......ELISE NEEDS TO BE A BIT MORE INFORMED BEFORE SHE CHARGES OFF TO SINK THE BOOT INTO A LOCAL ECONOMY SUCCESS STORY......
Brook Acklom commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:32 PM5 out of 5 stars
Thank goodness - a new councillor willing to speak out against waste. "The Arts" are fine, but the arts, along with climate change and other useless Greens-inspired projects receive more than their fair share of taxpayer's and rate-payer's money.

Mt Alexander gave their Greens councillor the flick and Bendigo failed to elect the Greens candidates either.

Seems a little common sense may actually be coming to some councils.
FJSG commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:35 PM5 out of 5 stars
Yes strangely shortsighted and ignorant statements. So Elise is against theatre and art. What does she support?
Reader commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:53 PM5 out of 5 stars
I wouldn't say I support "slashing" the Art Gallery's budget, however reducing the Council's input sounds like a positive move - as it may provoke the Gallery's management to work on ways for it to be more appealing, without relying on the Council as being its 'training wheels'.

Hopefully if this were to happen, some money could go towards The Bendigo Trust and improving its needy facilities/attractions. Judging by past reports, The Trust only receives a few hundred thousand dollars annually - spread over its 5 sites/attractions - compared with the Art Gallery and Capital Theatres' millions... It's time to help out another contributor to the city, council!
David Walker commented on 29-Oct-2012 12:54 PM5 out of 5 stars
The Gallery attracts a huge audience who then spend more cash in our shops, cafes, restaurants and accommodation. We should support the gallery as an integral part of a diverse range of community services.
Eddy of Golden Square commented on 29-Oct-2012 01:13 PM5 out of 5 stars
OMG is this new councillor for real.Last time we went to the gallery paid $2.oo as a donation and my 9 yr old daughter loved it. We have had so many Internationally recognised exhibits and even a Princess visit Bendigo because of the Quality of exhibits . I hope this is not a precursor to stopping Bendigo being even GREATER
Reader commented on 29-Oct-2012 01:33 PM5 out of 5 stars
You are flogging the wrong horse. The Gallery cost next to nothing to run last year,contributed $ millions to the local economy and sustained many jobs in the hospitalty industry. Congratulations on your election but please get the facts and fix on something that is underperforming.
Jamie James commented on 29-Oct-2012 01:34 PM5 out of 5 stars
Elise... where have you been all my life? Yes, stop bringing new vibe to Bendigo and who wants Bendigo to be on the map, and yes I have a job and can't see any point in creating a new job or jobs for anybody else. Whilst you are at it let's can Vline and the council busses as well, I never use them as I am sure you don't and they are also costing me a packet as a ratepayer...
The independent review of council also a fabulous plan, why should we elect people to office and not put unrealistic expectations on them to cut spending on our community... And again the children's playground... who wants kids taking up space in the mall? They should all be deposited into a childcare centre each day from birth until they are school age... Kids don't spend any money they should not be there!
Good on you Elise 18 hours from being elected and your on the case.. Should be more like you. NOT!
Reader commented on 29-Oct-2012 02:20 PM5 out of 5 stars
Congratulations on your election Elise, but you are flogging the wrong horse!
The Gallery cost Council next to nothing to run last year, generated many $millions input to the local economy, and created and sustained countless numbers of jobs in the local hospitality industry. To pull Council funding now will leave us with a big, useless, hole in the ground, a loss of Government grants and a huge damages bill because of default on contracts, already let. Not only that, it would utterly destroy the potential of the Gallery to contribute even more to Bendigo's prosperity. Really, you need to research, analyse and think before opening your mouth. You can do better than this, and I sincerely hope that you will.
Stuart commented on 29-Oct-2012 02:52 PM5 out of 5 stars
It's going to be a long 4 years... thank you Lockwood Ward residents. What have you done?
Sam commented on 29-Oct-2012 02:54 PM5 out of 5 stars
It astounds me how ignorant people like Elise Chapman manage to get voted into Council. Get your facts right before you go abuse your newly found power.

"We are throwing good money after bad and we are flogging a dead horse" - No idea if this makes sense.

“A lot of people need a rocket up their bums and if that has to be me (that does it), so be it. " - A lot of people have stupid sayings, but not many of these people manage to get voted into council. Elise is one of those few.

Let's hope for Bendigo's sake, that she is kicked out very soon.
Kazzamatazz commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:38 PM5 out of 5 stars
Jamie James rocks. Elise, get a clue and study up on the region you are now representing. I take it by your "flogging a dead horse" comment, that you couldn't care less about the independent retailers trying to make a living in the CBD.
Emma commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:39 PM5 out of 5 stars
The Bendigo attracts visitors from all over Australia with amazing exhibitions that rarely get seen anywhere else in the country. The Grace Kelly exhibition for example was booked out for months, and brings constant trade to the cafe's and restaurants in view street. And all of the permanent works are available for free for all to see. It caters for all demographics and ages, and is something The Bendigo people should take great pride having right on there doorstep. I sure am
Disheartened commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:41 PM5 out of 5 stars
...and who would have thought the council could get any worse
Reader commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:43 PM5 out of 5 stars
Obviously elise has no need for art in her life. I do.
Reader commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:45 PM5 out of 5 stars
At last another councillor with half a brain, we might just get all our rate money spent all across the CoGB instead of the CBD.
Go girl you have my vote.
Mick commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:46 PM5 out of 5 stars
Elise - congrats on your election, but perhaps as lesson number 1 you may want to be sure you have all of the facts before going public with such a one sided view. I wonder if you can articulate what the Gallery has done in terms of generating economic value to Bendigo. I'm guessing not. Please take the time to look past your nose and develop a balanced approach to your decission making, otherwise I fear you will have a very long 4 years ahead of you (and us!)
Truly unaligned commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:53 PM5 out of 5 stars
If the only word you have is "fiscal" then you are illiterate when it comes community, society & civil decent society.

It takes so much more than $ to keep a town going.

Hopefully Ms Chapman has listen as well as talk. Speaking your mind is one thing but speaking a mind that appears to be ignorant & narrow maybe a disaster for our town
Smiley Miley commented on 29-Oct-2012 03:56 PM5 out of 5 stars
Like it or not, not everyone benefits from the elite few looking at pictures. Money would be better spent across the board. Better still, gallery should charge entry and pay its own way instead of begging all the time. No other business gets this much support.
Fiona Beckwith commented on 29-Oct-2012 04:22 PM5 out of 5 stars
The Art Galley and the Capital are jewels in the crown of Bendigo. They attract thousands of visitors to Bendigo and entertain and educate our population rather than residents traveling to Melbourne. These organisations are not private businesses they are owned by us for the betterment of all residents.
4324321 commented on 29-Oct-2012 04:47 PM5 out of 5 stars
Aside from the permanent collection and a few other shows, I really don't see the Bendigo Art Gallery doing it's job! Certainly not when it is considered how much money is poured into it. In my opinion, the three shows (Couture, Wedding and Grace Kelly) Were formulated to bring crowds of upper middle class big spenders from Melbourne. Therefore reducing the gallery to a revenue raising machine. I will further add that the gallery is almost completely locked off to local artists due to the snobbery that occurs inside its walls. The only way to have a show at the Bendigo Art Gallery is to go elsewhere and become a success. It's like they are embarrassed to show local works to any major degree for fear of appearing too 'provincial'. Now Elise Chapman, The role of an Art Gallery is not to just create revenue. It is supposed to be a place where people who enjoy art can go to admire the beauty of great works of art. Share ideas and reflect on some big questions. I certainly hope you are not just trying to get people to lobby against Art in Bendigo? Art is not a waste of money. But the way the Bendigo Art Gallery spends it certainly requires a second opinion! My suggestions. 1.More local art support via exhibitions and projects. 2.More programs that will involve up and coming young people which may encourage them into creative pursuits. 3. Money to go toward small art schools or organizations. These above listed ideas could help the community to directly benefit from Art. The barrier between the public and the Bendigo Art Gallery has to be broken. I'm tired of this collective cynicism about Art just because the government sanctioned bodies (Bendigo Art Gallery) can't bring the community something that will enrich their lives!
Positive commented on 29-Oct-2012 06:32 PM5 out of 5 stars
I hope everyone voted? Maybe a re-election?
DavidC commented on 29-Oct-2012 06:38 PM5 out of 5 stars
Hmm maybe now we can cut funding from local sports as well?? A huge waste of money for something the select few have.
What about the capital? if the funding is cut from the gallery, put it towards that, so we can have *real* theatre and not the 23rd showing of "Menopause the Musical" again.
Honestly, what happened to the truly honest candidate?
What happened to running a city for the citizens, instead of as a business and us as the employees?!?!
It's time to focus less on the CBD and more on the outlying areas, reduce the amount of traffic of all kinds forced to use the CBD on a daily basis.
Cheryl Elvin commented on 29-Oct-2012 07:37 PM5 out of 5 stars
Who in the hell voted for this ignoramous?..what an uninformed twit....It is through art that people learn and it is through the Bendigo gallery that Bendigo has prospered and found itself on the map....I have family, not wealthy by any means, who have and do drive from Melbourne and beyond, to patronise the gallery, who then spend time and money elsewhere in Bendigo. Now, how can we vote this person out?
MF commented on 29-Oct-2012 08:56 PM5 out of 5 stars
Wrong, wrong, wrong!
The gallery is not for 'the chosen few' - it's for everyone. You don't have to pay to see any of the permanent exhibitions, unless you want to pop some money in the donation box. Obviously most people don't donate when they go in. I always donated as I went in. Maybe the gallery should start charging. Then it would be for the chosen few.
Elise Chapman - despite your 'hippy/ arty' photo, perhaps you are just a capitalist real estate agent at heart.
Ted Coleman commented on 30-Oct-2012 07:55 AM5 out of 5 stars
What is amazing here is the spitefulness of some of the comments. Buttons have been pressed.

Bloggers do themselves no good highlighting their own capacity and challenges when they use new words - “ignoramous” (sic) [ignoramus] - and the paper doesn’t help the debate when it publishes denigrating rubbish instead of a reasoned argument.

What Cr Elise Chapman has done is highlight a real need to discuss the purpose of the Gallery, and the best use of residents’ payments to council. To do this, and make informed decisions, we must have all the information placed on the table.

My knowledge of the data shows many are making unfounded rubbery claims. Just one example concerns the Gallery cost to residents. The following net loss figures are recorded in Council financial year budgets from 2006-07 to this year’ 2012-13 budget - $938,000; $1,383,000; $1,380,000; $1,425,000; $1,585,000; $1,488,000; and $1,928,000. These figures exclude the additional capital expenditure and tourism unit costs.

That’s a $10+million loss over seven years. So we all do pay an entry fee, even if we do not attend the gallery. Was it the best use of our $10million, and did it achieve the purposes set out for the gallery? That is the question.

The point some make about sport expenditure is also valid, and it too needs the same type of cost benefit analysis (cultural, economic, environmental, social, etc). We have no real idea of the demographics served by either sport or arts expenditure, or if that service-spread is fair and cost effective.

We need a better analysis of all the claims.
Chantall Rodger commented on 30-Oct-2012 01:29 PM5 out of 5 stars
Oh no - another Bendigo Councillor who doesn't support the arts...
I would like to know where she proposes to spend the money that she wants to cut from our cultural development??
Oh, and Elise, not sure if you were aware, but the "Grace Kelly:Style Icon" exhibit that finished in July brought over 100,000 VISITORS to Bendigo, who also ate at our cafes, slept in our motels and purchased items in MANY of our independent, locally owned stores. So I can totally understand why you feel that funding the gallery is a waste of ratepayers' money... When are the CoGB going to actually have someone on the council who DOES their homework and actually WORKS for the community...
Colin Carrington commented on 30-Oct-2012 04:14 PM5 out of 5 stars
I am not totally against the arts as I visit the Art Gallery once or twice a year. Also attend shows at the Capital occasionally. It is partly true what many bloggers state, and council officers and arts supporters advise that money spent in Bendigo by visitors coming to attend special exhibits or visit the gallery in general, is most beneficial to selective businesses. But the rank and file residential and rural ratepayer, unless they own, have a financial interest, or are fortunate to have a job in the hospitality industry that benefits from visitors -- RECEIVE NOTHING WHATSOEVER FROM THE VISITORS SPENDING. I have surveyed, yes only a small selection of Bendigo ratepayers, (AND being small this cannot be considered totally accurate), over several years. The results are consistent in what Elise Chapman has had the guts to come out and say. Very few ratepayers and other residents attend, in fact many NEVER have, either the Art Gallery or Capital theatre. Frankly, to degrees that is their loss. But in the case of shows at the Capital, there is a BIG cost factor for pensioners and those on low incomes. As a self funded retiree on a modest income and property owner, I have experienced the pain first hand the way Bendigo council rates have increased dramatically. Especially over the past 10 years. Is it any wonder people who do not avail - yes their choice - of the Art Gallery, but let us remember not everything is everyone's cup of tea. The time is night for 'user pays to be introduced'. That came in internationally many years ago through 'Neo-liberalism' which effectively means a fee or charge on everything. Councils, including Bendigo jumped on that in a multitude of areas,but the Art Gallery was deemed to be a sacred cow and remains so. Council protects the truth of true NET losses of both art gallery and Capital theatre, by tucking them away in the annual report. Congratulations to Ted Coleman for posting the enormous loss figures that can be confirmed by studying annual reports. When an Independent External review of council is eventually held, I could not see how identification of the Art Gallery and Capital Theatre as liabilities - UNDER THE CURRENT FORMAT IN WHICH COUNCIL MANAGES THEM - would not be identified as a priority area for reform.
Reader commented on 30-Oct-2012 07:13 PM5 out of 5 stars
Where's her fact-check? What ignorance. Has she actually been to either of these spaces? Seen the professionalism and worth in these Bendigo icons? "The White Wedding Dress" & "Grace Kelly: Style Icon" poured countless amounts of revenue into Bendigo. Not to mention the calibre of the entertainment provided by the staff at the Capital, and the money that brings back. Get her out... Now.
Reader commented on 30-Oct-2012 11:13 PM5 out of 5 stars
Bendigo, I weep for you.
Simon commented on 31-Oct-2012 03:10 AM5 out of 5 stars
Good to see there may be some decent debate in future council meetings (Something that has been lacking in the past).

After 6 months listening to the broadcast of the council meetings on Phoenix radio, I was actually hoping that all incumbent councillors would loose, but, unfortunately, only a few did.

I may not agree with everything that Ms Chapman has said, however it is better then no debate at all. A devil's advocate is always good for democracy. Even if the democratic body in question (the local council) is not recognised in our constitution.
mike commented on 04-Nov-2012 10:22 AM5 out of 5 stars
Social and cultural capital is hard to measure fiscally (it doesn't help when bean counters are left brain dominant either!) and this is where the independent review falls flat on its arse (and a council stacked with 'local business people'). How do you measure for example the mental health of those who access or participate in arts and creativity? the liveability of a city that has benefitted through becoming more diverse. Bendigo is fast becoming a cultural hotspot, how do you capture the ground work occurring now that will reap capital and citizens for the city in the near future? Its also concerning that the focus in the Arts Precinct is potentially a reflection of the current councils position on art is general. And many grassroots organisations and artists would have cause for concern. I certainly agree that Chapman is good for democracy- people might actually start taking an active interest in local government and start questioning and challenging their elected reps. Oh- and regarding the Chapman Adventure Park statement, we live in central vic- the whole damn place is an adventure park!
Dave commented on 05-Nov-2012 09:49 PM5 out of 5 stars
Hmmmm my last comment didn't make it up Must have said something controversial. Hopefully this thought is not too provocative.... Colin Carrington, the "select few" who work in hospitality and benefit from the money spent by tourists are very lucky indeed. Perhaps now they can afford those renovations, that new deck, the new car they've wanted, a new pair of glasses, a new outfit..... Whatever it is the chances are they are going to buy it locally. Which benefits us all whether we are a Sparkie, plumber, builder, optometrist, whatever. Because then they have more money to spend and on it goes.

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